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Date: April 6th, 2010 Name: V. MARTIN OGROSKY Subject: POLICE CRIMES IN CHARLOTTE (NC) AGAINST V. MARTIN OGROSKY Comment: I AM NOT A PROMINENT PERSON LIKE GATES, BUT THESE CRIMES HAPPEN EVEN TO FOLKS AT HIS LEVEL. I HAVE RAISED AROUND $1,000,000 PERSONALLY FOR POLICEMEN IN NORTH CAROLINA IN THE PAST, SO I AM NOT ANTI POLICE, BUT I HAVE NO CHOICE OTHER THAN TO GO PUBLIC AFTER MAJOR NEAR DEATH POLICE ASSAULT AND CIVIL RIGHTS CRIMES AND MUCH MORE IN EVENTS IN CHARLOTTE (NC) IN THE PAST, INCLUDING BEING BEATEN, WITH MEDICAL INJURIES, ATTEMPTS TO RUN ME OUT OF THE REGION IN VIOLATION OF LAW BY CHARLOTTE POLICEMEN,
Date: October 31st, 2009 Name: V. MARTIN OGROSKY Subject: MAJOR POLICE CRIMES AGAINST V. MARTIN OGROSKY IN CHARLOTTE, NC Comment: OH YES, I DO UNTERSTAND! I AM N O W IN THE THROES OF STANDING UP TO HATE CRIMES FROM CITY OF CHARLOTTE (NC) POLICE WHO HAVE ASSAULTED ME, NEARLY SHOT ME TO DEATH, ILLEGALLY USED A HELICOPTER ON ME SOME TIME BACK, AND VERY RECENTLY ILLEGALLY ARRESTED ME IN A FALSE ARREST USEING BOGUS WARRANTS AND FALSE INFORMATION FROM POLICE OFFICERS. TAKE MY SIDE! townguide.us
Date: August 8th, 2009 Name: Harrine Subject: After the Gates-Jim Crow-ley 'brawl - 08August2009 Comment: The 911 call exposes the lie of Jim Crow-ley's police report claim that 'two black men' were observed as a lie; Henry Louis Gates has given a detailed statement on The Tom Joyner Morning Show about the step-by-step events from Jim Crow-ley not saying initially that a call was received about a possible burglary; and, that Jim Crow-ley DID NOT deem it necessary to handcuff Dr. Gates UNTIL AFTER he asked for his name and badge number.
Date: July 27th, 2009 Name: Christine Subject: Mr. Gates is an Idiot! Comment: Milton,
you of all people do not know anything about Police procedures and policies. You are just a reporter putting trash out there that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Sgt. Crowley did what every police officer would do. He showed up because someone called in a burglary and it turns out that it was a false alarm. If Professor Gates would have politely showed Officer Crowley his ID or tells the officer that he is the resident there at the time instead of acting like a
Editor's Note: The 911 call has now been published. It turns out that you're the one talking trash. Crowley not only acted stupidly in arresting Gates but may also be a racist. The woman who called 911 never mentioned race. Crowley lied in his police report. I have covered police for years. Sadly, the public is not aware that lying is a major problem in police departments througout the country. So who is the idiot now Christine?
Date: July 27th, 2009 Name: Doug Subject: are you kidding Comment: I am reading through your posts especially the biased editors note. There probably is not much point in posting on this site since you clearly just have one perspective of this and your facts are wrong. As we now understand and have heard the tapes where nobody indicated that the potential intruders were Black! Gates was disruptive as verified by both a Black and Hispanic cop. Not that it really matters what race they are but apparently thats all that matters here.
Editor's Note: Why are the responses so predictable?
Date: July 27th, 2009 Name: Hello Subject: It's sad Comment: It's sad that you dont see the truth just bend it
Editor's Note: Of course, the truth according to you right?
How sad.
Date: July 27th, 2009 Name: Andrew Subject: Sgt Crowley/Mr Gates Comment: Dear Milton,
Why is it that everytime a Black man gets arrested for what they consider to be a ridiculous reason is the officer put on TV and the News. Sgt Crowley is a veteren of the police force with a crystal clear record of anything even closely related to this. We need to take his name out of it and look at what Prof Gates did, he is a professor at one of the best schools in the country, please ACT LIKE IT. If you insult a police officer what ever it is about, that is verbal abuse ----
Date: July 26th, 2009 Name: Donna Schexnayder Subject: Gates vs Crowley Comment: Your article critized Crowley's conduct as not to be expected from a police veteran who is a trainer of young recruits. What about Gates' conduct, as a HARVARD PROFESSOR, teaching our young adults that it is OK to behave in the mannor he did, when the officer was there to protect GATES' property. If you want to know what really happened, demand that the tapes of the event be released! I am sure Professor Gates would be very embarrased by his behavior.
Editor's Note: I agree! Professor Gates probably acted like an oaf! Still police powers should never be abused. He should not have been arrested
Date: July 26th, 2009 Name: Bill Watson Subject: Sgt Crowley/Mr Gates Comment: It might project a better image if you guys met at the White House over a coke.
Date: July 26th, 2009 Name: Maria Bulat Subject: Please Write The Truth Comment: Dear Milton,
Sometimes the truth is the best help in understanding our problems. Your problems are min, even though I am white. We should ease the tensions and speak the truth.
Editor's Note: The truth can set us all free. Maria, I don't know where you live but please go speak candidly with Black folk...of all social classes and ask them about their experience with the police. The problem is that in this country we can't handle the truth. The truth, it seems, is that while Prof. Gates may have behaved like a cad in mentioning Officer Crowley's "mama," that was no reason to arrest him and detain him for four hours. That was clearly abuse of power.
Date: July 26th, 2009 Name: James Subject: Cambridge Incident Comment: It is difficult for any person to comment on this case without knowing all the facts. Obama took the approach: Ready, Fire Aim.
We do know that a neighbor called to report a break-in; I would thank my neighbor for looking out for my property. I would thank the police for caring. I would obey the Police's request for positve ID if directed to provide such.
I would not immediately engage in ...playing the race card .... and insulting the policeman's mother.
Editor's Note: You don't know all the fact and yet you're commenting too no? The fact is police officers aren't supposed to arrest you for insulting their mama, wrong as it may be. That's abuse of power....assuming Sgt. Crowley hated his mother, would he still have arrested Prof. Gates?
Date: July 26th, 2009 Name: James Reid Subject: Good Police Work Comment: The handcuffs were shown to Dr. Gates as a second warning because he refused to heed the first warning. It has been my experience that most police officers treat you with the same respect and level of behavior that you show them. If Dr. Gates had not been yelling and screaming at the officers it is doubtful that any handcuffs would have been shown to him.
Editor's Note: Once we allow police officers to start arresting citizens for "yelling and screaming" as you say, we are on a rapid path towards tyranny. They are law enforcement officers; not laws unto themselves. Sgt. Crowley goofed big time.
Date: July 25th, 2009 Name: Bobish Subject: Arrest of Dr. Gates Comment: It is evident that police officers have forgotten that they are employed to SERVE AND PROTECT US'. I also had a similar incident with the Hamilton Police in ONTARIO Canada. The two officers who answered my front door tried to bully me into doing their bidding. When I refused because they were acting stupidly they charged me with theft of a ball which some bigoted neighbours had thrown over my fence. The charge was thrown out and I sued the bastards. So the US is not unique....
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Why Sgt. James Crowley Was Foul
By Greg Fuller
07-25-09
At the end of the day, it didn't matter that Prof. Gates has authored and edited dozens of great books. Sgt. Crowley certainly did not act as a professional police officer; there was malice and vindictiveness in the arrest ....abuse of power
We will all benefit when we instill professional consistency in our police officers – to many bad things happen in its absence. The Dr. Henry Louis Gates matter is another indication we still have a ways to go yet; in some places.
Some officers still act as though being a cop is akin to joining the neighborhood "tree house” clique or a frat. I think the “band of brothers” mentality is a commendable aspect of police camaraderie; however, in the minds of some officers it takes on too much of an "us versus them" ethic. In some cases "us versus them" overshadows the ethic of “protect and serve" and undermines professionalism.
That mentality is not unique to officers of any race or region.
It is common knowledge that cops, not unlike bankers, Wall Street insiders and others, too often stick together, even when wrong. That may have been a contributing factor in why the other cops stood by, as Sergeant James Crowley did his “I can make you perp walk if you don't shut-up” routine. Why else would Dr. Gates be detained handcuffed for four hours by the Cambridge Police Department?
Handcuffing and arresting a man who posed no threat to anyone, was clearly more about bullying or ego than any imaginable necessity of law enforcement. Sgt. Crowley even admits to waving his handcuffs at Dr. Gates, in effect, as a warning to shut-up. That was an unprofessional act by Officer Crowley to say the least. If you know Dr. Gates-you know such a display by the officer amounted to further provocation.
When I read that Sgt. Crowley threatened arrest and flashed his handcuffs at Dr. Gates -my mind’s eye flashed back to the self-assured "I know my rights" kindred spirit. I knew from our college days-- and I knew talking to Skip in that manner, while at his home is unacceptable behavior to Dr. Gates—as it would be to many among us.
Only the most disciplined or meek among us would stand for that little handcuff waving “red cape to a bull” maneuver; especially in the midst of a heated exchange.
Adding in the four hour detention of Dr. Gates, we have the appearance of an element of the Cambridge Police wanting to impress upon Dr. Gates that around the Cambridge "tree-house" they rule and rule absolutely.
Should Dr. Gates have consulted his cooler head, and shown the respect he expected; yes in my opinion—and he says he did. Whether Dr. Gates crossed some arbitrary line in Sgt. Crowley's mind or not, his having done so, in no way pardons the unprofessional police conduct that followed. Sgt. Crowley’s conduct was admittedly propelled by a "do as I say or else" attitude. The kind that 11 year olds in a "tree-house" might display.
It certainly was not conduct I’d expect from a police veteran who is himself a trainer of young recruits. The “tree-house” mentality has no place in the very adult world of law enforcement.
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